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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:49 pm 
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Terry,

The co-ordinates for the Hackensall coin hoard actually appear (believe it or not) on the 1930 O.S. map. (Michelle's just dug it out for me.) I might have stuck the arrow in slightly the wrong place on the photograph. A little closer to the river...but only just...and a bit further north (by a couple of yards) and you're more or less on it.

I've heard that the Knott End Golf Club welcome metal detectorists wielding spades to their course...although this (I should point out for legal reasons) is only a rumour...

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I've actually found the newspaper cutting about the "Wireless Talk" of the Hackensall Hoard find. It was in the Fleetwood Cronicle , Fylde News and Advertiser, dated 22/4/27 and the radio broadcast was a few days earlier. The attached copies of the article give a loose trancript...wonder if the Beeb still have the recording in their archives...hopefull Brian will uplift the image in due course...over to you maestro! And given the size of the script, I'm sure Brian would have done a better job.


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 Post subject: Re: OVER WYRE
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Terry,

It seems you've already uploaded the images...although I'm seriously starting to wonder whether I need my glasses upgrading a notch.

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H. Burrows was a Poulton Councillor and amateur archaeologist. Following his death, his collection of artefacts (whatever they were) was acquired by the Fylde Historical Society.

Burrows, along with a Mr. Clemesha, tried to survey Danes Pad. He concluded that it hadn't existed and urged the Ordnance Survey to remove it from its maps.


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I have read somewhere that Mr Burrows excavated near dowbridge and found Roman material that could have been foundations for a bridge over the Dowbrook, though he was at the time trying to discredit the existance of the Roman from Ribchester into the Fylde via Kirkham.

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 Post subject: Re: OVER WYRE
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Martyn,

That's Stalmine, isn't it?


On the other side of the river maybe but the town in the foreground is definately Fleetwood.

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Don't you think that stretch of the B5412 from Thornton Lodge (as was ) to Thornton Hall is awfully straight? Then it suddenly forks left and right for no (apparent) reason. Do we have a candidate here for the continuation of the Roman Road from the other side of Poulton to Portus Setan....sorry, Fleetwood?


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Don't you think that stretch of the B5412 from Thornton Lodge (as was ) to Thornton Hall is awfully straight? Then it suddenly forks left and right for no (apparent) reason. Do we have a candidate here for the continuation of the Roman Road from the other side of Poulton to Portus Setan....sorry, Fleetwood?


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John,
I found this one looking for somewhere else, which I didn't know I had, taken last year. I'll post it on here as it has Blackpool tower on it.

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Terry,
Isn't the B5412 Victoria Road, rather east- west for what you propose.

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Frank,

Brian's map extract posted on 22/8/09 shows the B5412 as between Thornton Lodge (as was) and Thornton Hall. May be it's an old extract and the road has since been renumbered?


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Terry,

Now I know which stretch of road you're talking about...the one that runs past the former Illawalla. There's a nasty blind little bend along it, especially for such a narrow road, right outside the cottages in front of Thornton Hall. I'm not sure how old the road actually is, but the Skippool end of it does appear on King's map (unfortunately I don't think he ever bothered following it all the way to Thornton, because that wasn't what the map was about) circa 1680...or round about then, at any rate...it was during the early Stuart period whatever the case. How long it had been there before he drew his map is anybody's guess.

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Terry,
Just been looking at that strech of road and your right, (it is the B5412, it goes from The River Wyre Hotel to Cleveleys front) that bit of road is bang on in alignment with Puddle house farm, and to the north it lines up with Rakes road from Little Thornton to where Underbank Road splits off. Also where the road goes left at Thornton Hall, there appears (to me, on Multimap aerial) to be a mark in the field in line with it. Well spotted, has it not been proposed before?

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More of the same, I'm afraid, same area, different views.

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 Post subject: Re: OVER WYRE
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Cheers for them Frank. Doesn't the ICI blend in well with the landscape in the twilight?

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